Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

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Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

Postby loophole » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:09 pm

I live out on a golf course where people are mostly retired.. with dogs that are fluffy and small etc. I'm 30 and I'm pretty positive that I have the only pit on the whole course. All though if i wave these people happily wave back but they have no interest in trying to "meet and greet" dogs. They sometimes comment that my dog is pretty as I walk by but move quickly to stop their dog from lunging, as mine as well will. I'm pretty positive I irritate them a bit as I will have my dog sit and stay (not always easy) as their dog barks etc... I took my dog to puppy class and helped to socialize him but that was about 5 months ago and I feel he is losing his social skills.. he wants to play. He does have our dog he enjoys time with but obviously that is different. He gets a lot of socialization skills around people at our house..(2 young children, big family) The dog issue he only he gets truly socialized on when my brother in law from Colorado comes and visits.. (2-3 times a year). He has a pit bull and a lab/pitbull mix. They did pretty well but it was well supervised and a few moments the dogs were side by side (facing opposite directions) standing tall and stiff. Like an action of waiting for one of them to make a move. I'd like to socialize more often but it seems impossible. I can't really walk into petco or other friendly dog areas with my dog as I'm not positive how he will act.. (I know he will be pulling hard to get to a dog. He's never been in a fight (he's only 1 and I know that doesn't mean much).. he's just an excited and very curious adolescent that wants to play and obviously gives off the wrong impression. I'd rather not have a bad experience which only makes things worse. We went on a walk on the course today and he was within 25 yards of some geese. They started ranting but he never went after them. Just stood and watched til they flew away and never went running after them. I'm curious as to what some of you seasoned people think may be a good way to approach this. Socialization is obviously key and we are lacking on the dog side a good amount.

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Re: Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

Postby PitBull-Lady » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:13 pm

There are so many posts here about socialization and manners. I'd do a quick search to check out the posts first. The recommendations on positive meetings and how to address issues are a plenty.

One thing I would do and you'll read about it too in the posts is letting people know you are in 'training' and making your training efforts known. It often puts people more at ease especially if it is obvious you're working on stuff right in front of them.

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Re: Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

Postby loophole » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:14 am

Agreed.. I just didn't know how to deal with my particular situation. People here are very un interested.. Maybe I should just head to petco. It is Saturday :)
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Re: Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

Postby randomroads » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:08 pm

I realize it's a frozen moment in time but that picture makes me VERY uneasy. The blue/black dog is stiff with his head up high and avoiding looking at the red dog, who's going whale eyed and leaning way from the stiff dog. Is this your dog's normal body posture toward other dogs or is it just an unfortunately snap at the wrong moment? Plenty of play, if freeze framed, can look like this because they were in the process of moving around each other.

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Postby loophole » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:48 pm

Yes kind of my thoughts I was on alert the whole time. They did shortly after move around and get along. Tails wagging.. Down. He's never had that position on another dog. Not even the lab/pit mix. First visit with pit.. Sniffing then a freeze... We talked to them... Tried to keep the level low... They were able to lay down and chill out some.. My 1 yr old kept wanting to push and play but also wanted acted a bit bossy. He may of felt it was his territory.. My house...

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Re: Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

Postby loophole » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:52 pm

This is my concern with tripping to a pet store... He's gonna want to play.. I walk him daily and he runs a lot on a golf course.. He's constantly go though.. When excited.. Certified at night. The he's a huge baby. He lays around the house and is great with our kids. We are always around.

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Postby Novy » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:25 pm

Sounds like a similar situation to mine. She doesn't communicate well, gets fixated, can be pushy, and always wants to play. Because of that I avoid other dogs on walks unless it is a dog I intend for her to have play time with them. Some meetings were flawless and some not to great. If it is just meeting for the sake of meeting, I'd rather avoid possible trouble.

An uneasy first impression doesn't have to be the end of a friendship before it starts though. Take them for a walk, start them out well beyond the other's reach. Bring the excitement level down and get them a bit more comfortable with each other and let them meet when they look comfortable doing so. It literally took in excess of 2 hours walking and a full evening of closely monitored interaction for my brother's dog to get comfortable with mine. In the first 15 minutes I would have thought there was no way they would ever get along. Now, despite only seeing each other once every few months they go right to playing with no issue at all.

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Postby whtboo1 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:52 pm

:goodpost: I have to do the same with my Brady. He is extremely pushy/playful, and he has poor social with other dogs (he is bad at backing off when another dogs ask, etc) He will fixate on a dog and act very reactive, but when given an opportunity to meet he will just want to play. When introducing him to a new doggie friend (usually a friend of mines dog or someone I know) I usually will have us all walk together on leash well out of reach, and will do this a few times until he is not as concerned/trying to play with about the new dog. Then gradually move closer (walking side by side, etc) before actually allowing off leash play. This allows me to reward him acting properly with being allowed to play with or meet another dog. If he drags me over to say hi (and he has!) I don't care that the owner often says "Its ok if they say hi" I will reply with "He can't say hi if he's going to drag me around, sorry." and then I'll walk away. He is getting a lot better, he tried to pull me to/bark/play with the dogs in our new training class, but by the end of the second class of him not being allowed to say hi or play, we were able to walk out on a flat collar with very little pulling (I usually use a head collar). I find it more useful for Brady to see other dogs and create positive associations with them (by reinforcing good behavior around them with treats, play, praise) than n to actually play with other dogs. He sees other dogs in class/walks/outings several times a week, but I only set up playdates for him a few times a month.

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Re: Socializing a Dog in a "yuppy" area.. lol

Postby Diamondlil » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:59 am

I personally prefer most interactions with 'stranger' dogs to be with all parties on leads. Unless you know the other dogs well and can quickly control any reactivity that gets out of hand it can go from friendly to fight too quickly for my liking. Teaching good lead walking manners walking alongside other owners means your dog can have low-key interactions. The problem is finding other owners with the same opinions. Walking alongside someone with a screaming dog lunging at you and your dogs, especially on an extending lead is no fun IMO!
To be honest, my dogs now get very limited off-lead play with other dogs, because I got sick of them getting attacked. I've got a bedlington terrier and a bedlington/whippet. Their idea of fun is running. Unfortunately this triggers a prey drive from a lot of other dogs so now mine only actually play with a couple of lurchers and whippets, a very nice pack of rescue spaniels (8 of them owned by an elderly lady) and a couple of steady labs. Where I walk regularly there's a man who feeds all the other dogs treats and I've seen huge fights erupt around him, so I avoid him until his pockets are empty!
I have a walking pal with previously very dog-reactive mastiff crosses. Our dogs cannot be offlead together because of the prey drive issue but we pack walk with them all on relaxed leads with no problems. Another man with rescue and fostered bully types also pack walks with mine when we cross paths, again we always snap the leads on to prevent chasing/attacks offlead.
I don't have 'play dates' at home, I take my dogs out every day to interact and socialise, to me indoors is for relaxing.


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